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Poster: DJason Date: Nov 27, 2010 12:13pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Two Nudie Cuties to check

I've got the Something Weird double feature disc for "Kiss Me Quick" and "The House On Bare Mountain". The packaging specifically claims copyright only on "special edition" materials, i.e. the commentary track. Neither of the movies contains a copyright notice -- in fact, amusingly, "Kiss Me Quick" has no optical titles whatsoever; the credits are done entirely in voiceover. (The commentary makes clear that this was done purely as a cost-saving measure, unsurprisingly.)

But I want to make triple-sure: Does the total lack of notice guarantee that both of these are public domain, or do I need to do further checking? Both were released pre-1965, I believe.

If they're definitely PD, I'll upload them once I've got my new computer up and running, sometime in the next week or so.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Nov 27, 2010 12:28pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

Lack of copyright notices makes the movies PD.

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Poster: DJason Date: Nov 27, 2010 1:04pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

Muchas gracias. :)

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Poster: Elric_Dewisant Date: Nov 28, 2010 5:14pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

Funniest thread, ever!

I especially like adhering to the tradition of throwing a softcore cat fight into the middle like many good sexploitation films.

As far as I can tell, this section of IA is meant for preservation of film history. Specifically, those orphans in the public domain. Nudie Cuties are part of that cinematic history and no less undeserving of our help; and like any exploitation film are the red-headed stepchildren of the industry. Few of these films are still around and fostering censorship by labeling them as "pornographic", which is about as far from the already subjective definition as one can get (it is to pornographic what Diz-knee is to high art), is in my opinion, very wrong. OK. I it's not that pretty and kinda demeaning. It is but one aspect of our culture. It's no less important than the sex toys that have been found in Pompeii and Herculaneum....and probably nearly as culturally and historically suppressed.

And let me be clear here. While I agree that posting porno (the genre that comprises adult films involving sexual penetration, which I use as a definition here, because pornography as a concept is highly subjective) to IA is wrong, as anyone of any age can access this archive. Advocating censorship without first previewing the material in question for any reason (including religious, body shame-based criteria) is more than enough for me to mark one's index card with "is an idiot, do not like, will not help".

And what constitutes a "proper upbringing"? I was raised in a faith (recovered) that includes magic underwear, secret handshakes, baptism of the dead and a favorite sponge cake dessert called "lumpy dick". Did I turn out with any more or less proper an upbringing than someone who did catechism? Could I be scarred for life if I saw (OMG! OHNOES!!) ankle? What is "normal"? None of that has any bearing here, mainly because it's nobody's damn business.

Here's an idea that just might keep everyone happy, and probably repeats much of the above as a nutshell version). If you have an opinion that is based in religious belief, keep it to your self. If you have a nudie cutie to share, do and let us know. If you don't want to see nudie cuties, don't friggin' look.

Pretty damn simple, if you ask me.

This post was modified by Elric_Dewisant on 2010-11-29 01:14:28

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Nov 28, 2010 6:03pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

You raise a lot of good points but I have to ask one important question:

Is "lumpy dick" anything like "spotted dick"?

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Poster: Elric_Dewisant Date: Nov 28, 2010 6:12pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

I guess you could say sort of. Spotted dick is a suet pudding with fruit (usually currants) in it. Lumpy dick is a soaked sponge cake with raisins in it (as far as I can remember. It's been a few decades since I had any).

There were a lot of English and Welsh converts to Mormonism in the 19th century (mainly as a way of getting out of the UK for a chance to improve one's life). So I imagine that both have the same source, but Lumpy is more of a "we don't have X so we'll make due" adaptation.

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Poster: Elric_Dewisant Date: Nov 28, 2010 6:17pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

cosmico: I was about to answer your comment, but it seems to have wandered off.

Yeah. It was a bit ranty on my part. But, in my defense, it pushed multiple buttons with me. I abhor censorship in any form. I loathe when people foist their dogma and/or cultural standards on others. And even implying that X part of one's cultural heritage deserves preservation while X part doesn't and should be allowed to wither, die and disappear, never to be seen again, angers me. It's all just so inappropriate on so many levels.

Hell. Past "Here's a nudie cutie, is it PD?", this whole damn thread is inappropriate and should never have happened.

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Poster: quigs Date: Nov 27, 2010 3:14pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

I am so thrilled to have porno pronographic filth at IA.

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Poster: DJason Date: Nov 27, 2010 3:51pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

quigs, do you know what a Nudie Cutie is? Playboy shows more flesh and is far more "filthy" than one of these inanities.

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Poster: quigs Date: Nov 27, 2010 4:05pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

I assume by the term, "nude cutie" it shows more more flesh than an average swimsuit of the 1960's or 1970's of material
here on IA as well as if the assumed person was on the city street would be somewhat embarrassed in the present state of undress.
However, RJason, if this your cup of tea(and as you can see it is not mine) go ahead.

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Poster: The_Master_Cylinder Date: Nov 27, 2010 10:20pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

quigs is just a "prudie snooty." Pay no attention to the man.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 28, 2010 7:34am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

Let's see. Quigs didn't call for censorship or banning the material . Just his distaste . And look at the snippy comments . If one is comfortable viewing early porn , then be comfortable . Why even bother with a dissenting opinion ?
And I definitely do not want to see my mom nude . Maybe it's just me . And Q .

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Poster: The_Master_Cylinder Date: Nov 28, 2010 1:34pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

Now it's getting confusing. When did quigs' and micah6vs8's mothers make nude videos? Are they available here on the archive? Just asking because it seemed like a weird thing to bring up, almost Oedipal.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 28, 2010 4:24pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

TMC , my mom may have made cutie nudie's . I'm not sure . She was very Catholic and considered becoming a nun , but then became preggers w/ me @ 18 . She then didn't have much free time for the next 15ish years or so . But TMC , you never can tell , can you ? If she did make such vids the time line is a bit off . Cutie nudies were out and Deep Throat was in by the early 70's .
Oedipal? I can answer that question with complete certainty . I will not be gouging my eyes out , ever .
TMC ? Is that a Big Unit ? Just askin' ;-)

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Poster: The_Master_Cylinder Date: Nov 28, 2010 9:12pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

LOL! No.. well maybe yes. He was Felix the Cat's nemesis

http://thumbnails.hulu.com/44/50097044/212276_512x288_generated.jpg

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Nov 28, 2010 8:27am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

Why bother? Because he implies that those that disagree with him didn't have a 'proper upbringing'.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 28, 2010 8:35am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

Maybe you are importing that ?
Who cares what someone's opinion is . If you know you had a proper upbringing , then so what ?
Is it the subject matter ?


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Poster: billbarstad Date: Nov 28, 2010 8:52am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

He implies it quite clearly in this reply.

Why do I care? I've had my fill of religious bullies and bigots. I don't think that quigs is particularly sanctimonious, but those that are have far too much power and influence in this country. It's a matter of principle to me.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 28, 2010 9:24am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

O.K.
I trust that , " but those that are have far too much power and influence in this country." , does not mean that peaceful practice of religious beliefs are restricted by speech or influence . Are you speaking in general of , Muslims , Jews , Christians , Buddhists , Hindustanis , ect. ?

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Nov 28, 2010 9:35am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

No. I wasn't referring to that, but actions meant to restrict peaceful religious practice inspired by religious and political speech and influence have been in the news of late.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 28, 2010 11:56am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

Indeed . And a nice soft landing for our conversation .

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Nov 28, 2010 1:10pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

I think that DJason should be commended for warning people ahead of time that the material has nudity. It gives people a chance to decide ahead of time to decide whether or not to download the material. I myself have posted a few trailers that feature material that some may find objectionable or offensive and posted warnings in their desciptions to let people know. If DJason posts his movies I hope he (or she since I don't take anything for granted) does the same for the benefit of perpective viewers. As far as whether one is a prude or not, that's one's own business.
On another note it is stated clearly that the material is sourced from Something Wierd so when the stuff is uploaded expect to see the nasty old "SMV" watermark that I personally find annoying but do not feel violates any trademarks that anyone owns since anyone with the right software can superimpose it and is not an actual logo in my opinion.


This post was modified by guyzilla on 2010-11-28 21:09:54

This post was modified by guyzilla on 2010-11-28 21:10:38

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Poster: matt1900 Date: Nov 28, 2010 8:06am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

Revenge of the Virgins is called a Nudie Cutie but there isn't really anything erotic about it. After watching it I would say that it is just a really bad movie. It is so bad that it is funny.
http://www.archive.org/details/RevengeOfTheVirgins

This post was modified by matt1900 on 2010-11-28 16:06:24

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Poster: quigs Date: Nov 27, 2010 10:52pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

I won't deny that. I just know what I know and that of a proper upbringing.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Nov 28, 2010 6:17am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

I assume you mean an upbringing where the human body is considered to be indecent or dirty. I was born in the '50s, but my parents weren't prudes, and I thank them for not passing on that hangup.

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Poster: quigs Date: Nov 28, 2010 6:26am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

Your assumption is false I too was born in the 1950's but there was a common sense to it in that there was a sanctimonious relationship between a man and a woman in marriage. To display nudity in any form was not consider dirty or thought to be of one to be prudish or pious but rather bad taste. Let me ask you a question, would you want to see your mother nude? Probably not . So with that said, I must get ready for church. Should I say a prayer for you as well? Because I do not begrudge you of your opinion and please respect me for mine. Good day.

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Poster: The_Master_Cylinder Date: Nov 28, 2010 7:42am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

LOL@ "sanctimonious." You obviously don't know what the word means. smh

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Nov 28, 2010 7:45am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Two Nudie Cuties to check

I don't see your connection between nudity and religiously sanctified marriage or any other kind of marriage. Thankfully, I don't consider nudity in art to be in bad taste. The first recorded liturgy of baptism, written down by Saint Hippolytus of Rome in his 'Apostolic Tradition', required men, women and children to remove all clothing, including all foreign objects such as jewelry and hair fastenings. This practice is reflected in early Christian art depicting baptism. What nudity there is in films here at IA is just so quaint to me, not at all a turn-on, even if it was so intended by the producers.

I probably did see my mother, and other family members, in various states of undress, and vice-versa. I don't recall because they weren't shocked or angry about it, and neither was I. It wasn't made into a big deal. Now if a nude or scantily dressed woman was walking down the street, and I was post-adolescent, well that's a horse of a different color. I'm far too sensible to have hangups, and I thank my parents for a good start on that. Peace.